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U.S. Treads Cautiously With North Korean Transition

Dec 19, 2011
Originally published on December 19, 2011 8:19 pm

The changing of the guard in North Korea poses clear risks for the United States.

Kim Jong Il's son Kim Jong Un is the likely successor. But he's still in his 20s and has had little time to prepare to take over the country. Analysts say that because he's weak, he won't be in any position to get back to nuclear disarmament talks and make concessions.

Kim Jong Un may also be tempted to take provocative actions to establish his leadership credentials, and the Obama administration has to take all this into account as it decides on next steps.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton says she has been consulting other players in the so-called six-party nuclear disarmament talks, and met one of them at the State Department on Monday, her counterpart from Japan.

"We both share a common interest in a peaceful and stable transition in North Korea, as well as in ensuring regional peace and stability," Clinton said.

She did not offer condolences on the death of Kim Jong Il, just a brief message for the North Korean people: "We reiterate our hope for improved relations with the people of North Korea, and remain deeply concerned about their well-being."

Aid Groups: North Korea Needs Food

The Obama administration was supposed to discuss a resumption of food aid to North Korea, but the death of Kim Jong Il will delay that. Aid groups, though, are hoping the Obama administration won't wait too long.

"You could, in a very real sense, see the needs for food assistance by seeing acutely malnourished and large numbers of chronically malnourished children in pediatric wards," says Jim White, vice president of operations for Mercy Corps.

The needs were also painfully evident in orphanages and primary schools, he added. White has been to North Korea seven times, most recently in September to visit three provinces that had suffered from floods.

Though the U.S. always says it doesn't play politics with food aid, one expert on the subject, Marcus Noland, says the deal that was in the works was to provide nutritional assistance if North Korea rejoined disarmament talks.

"So the United States finds itself in the ironic position that it has agreed to the sweetener — to the food aid — but is unlikely to see much progress on the nuclear talks because the North Korean government is going to be in a period in which they are probably going to be unwilling to make any concessions," Noland says.

Noland, who is the deputy director of the Peter G. Peterson Institute for International Economics, says the U.S. should follow through on promised aid and offer a friendly gesture to North Korea in hopes that it will pay off. He's just not sure the heir apparent, Kim Jong Un, will be able to or interested in taking advantage of such an opening.

"The thing about North Korea is, it appears to be remarkably insensitive to both sanctions and inducements," Noland says.

No Organized Opposition

And despite the many years of food shortages and chronic malnutrition, the people aren't rising up, either.

"There's no Roman Catholic Church, there's no Solidarity Trade Union, there's no civic forum of intellectuals. There's not even a personage like Cardinal [Jaime] Sin in the Philippines who gave a kind of moral legitimacy to the people's power revolution," Noland says.

"There appears to be a complete absence of those civil society institutions capable of channeling mass discontent," he says. "So we could see unrest, we could see food riots, but that doesn't translate into significant reform in government."

How things play out in North Korea will depend mainly on the politics of the elite, and Noland says the U.S. has little influence over or knowledge about that.

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There are clear risks for the U.S. with this changing of the guard in North Korea. Analysts say because Kim Jong Un is young and relatively unprepared to take power, he won't be in any position to get back to nuclear disarmament talks or make concessions. He may also be tempted to take provocative actions to establish his leadership credentials. As NPR's Michele Kelemen reports, the Obama administration is taking all of this into account as it decides on the next steps.

MICHELE KELEMEN, BYLINE: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton says she's been consulting other players in the so-called six-party nuclear disarmament talks, and met one of them at the State Department today - her counterpart from Japan.

SECRETARY HILLARY CLINTON: We both share a common interest in a peaceful and stable transition in North Korea, as well as in ensuring regional peace and stability.

KELEMEN: Secretary Clinton kept to her prepared remarks. She offered no condolences, just a brief message for the North Korean people.

CLINTON: We reiterate our hope for improved relations with the people of North Korea, and remain deeply concerned about their well-being.

KELEMEN: The Obama administration was supposed to discuss today a resumption of food aid to North Korea, but the death of Kim Jong Il will delay that. Aid groups are hoping the Obama administration won't wait too long. The vice president of operations for Mercy Corps, Jim White, has been to North Korea seven times, most recently in September to visit three provinces that had suffered from floods.

JIM WHITE: You could, in a very real sense, see the needs for food assistance by seeing acutely malnourished and large numbers of chronically malnourished children in pediatric wards - the level of stunting that was happening to children that were in orphanages and baby homes, and in some of the primary schools. So that was the way that we were assessing some of the needs around food.

KELEMEN: Though the U.S. always says it doesn't play politics with food aid, one expert on the subject, Marcus Noland, says the deal that was in the works was to provide nutritional assistance if North Korea rejoined disarmament talks.

MARCUS NOLAND: So the United States finds itself in the ironic position that it has agreed to the sweetener, to the food aid, but is unlikely to see much progress on the nuclear talks because the North Korean government is going to be in a period in which they're probably going to be unwilling to really do much new to make many concessions.

KELEMEN: Noland, who is the deputy director of the Peterson Institute for International Economics, says it is the right thing to do, to follow through on promised aid and offer a friendly gesture to North Korea in hopes that it will pay off. He's just not sure the heir apparent, Kim Jong Un, will be able to or interested in taking advantage of such an opening.

NOLAND: The thing about North Korea is, it appears to be remarkably insensitive to both sanctions and inducements.

KELEMEN: And despite the many years of food shortages and chronic malnutrition, the people aren't rising up, either.

NOLAND: There's no Roman Catholic Church, there's no Solidarity trade union, there's no civic forum of intellectuals. There's not even a personage like Cardinal Sin in the Philippines, who gave a kind of moral legitimacy to the people's power revolution. There just appears to be a complete absence of those civil society institutions capable of channeling mass discontent. So we could see unrest; we could see food riots. But that doesn't translate into significant reform in government.

KELEMEN: How things play out in North Korea will depend mainly on the politics of the elite, and Noland says the U.S. has little influence over or knowledge about that. Michele Kelemen, NPR News, Washington. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.